We’ve got a beautiful sister who’s feeling stuck and sad, saying she needs to get out. She knows what she needs to do, but she needs our help and support to show her the way. She signed her letter "Anonymous", so I've called her "Ashley."
Here’s her letter:
Hi Jane.
I’ve been reading a lot of your posts / comments and I realized they sometimes give me lightbulb moments enough to nudge me forward. But they also make me cringe when I realize that some of them feel like it’s me the article is about.
I’m stuck. And I really need help.
I knew this guy from a dating app. It was instant attraction and chemistry. He was super keen and all that, so much so I started to believe he could be the one after all.
On date 3, we kissed and held hands. Usually that will mean a committed relationship to me, and it was my mistake I didn’t ask for clarity. But I thought he thought the same.
Two months in, we slept together.
I take responsibility for allowing it without actually clarifying what we were prior to letting it happen. So I mustered enough courage to ask him what is this thingy that is between us. I mean we were acting like a couple already for 2 months!
I took care not to come across as pressuring and demanding but merely clarifying.
His response was he hasn’t thought about it, that he was attracted to me, and wants to see where this goes. And he also said he is waiting for a “calling” - making references to his catholic faith. I am a free thinker so I didn’t understand it enough but didn’t want to undermine his reasons if this was real at all.
I was very confused by him saying he wants to see where this goes as we have already been acting like a couple! We’d meet every week unless he was overseas. We had all the hallmarks!
But I liked him too much to let him go. Maybe I should have.
Immediately thereafter "the talk".
He began putting in more effort. I was delighted.
The frequency of his texts flactuted, and so the frequency of him asking to see me. But when we do meet, we still act like couple, and he would still be attentive and sweet to me and all that. So I was constantly confused.
Since then, we have slept together a few more times, and even went on a trip. But I started getting jumpy about him when previously I would have been 100% assured that nothing was wrong.
It came to a point when I was obsessing over if he’d reach out after a great date.
And if it’s useful to know, previously it would be him, but I realized I’ve started to do more that now. All because I can’t stand the unfamiliar quietness and I want to prove that he is still interested and will reply my text - he actually replies me very fast when I do that.
But I am mindful of still coming across as fun and flirty and happy throughout all this communication. I take care not to sound demanding or pressurizing.
I give him space to ask me out even though I text him first - and he mostly does. I make it easy for him to see me if I can, and I am always sweet and nice when I see him in person.
Not clingy, not needy.
We still have great dates every time! But sometimes I would be dying inside.
Sometimes he would say let’s do this next time or he should bring me to this place etc., but I’ve noticed that it sometimes does not happen. And I hate myself for feeling disappointment.
It is now 7 months into this “casual relationship” - I hate this term but I think I know this is what we are now.
I am not sure if I am giving myself a timeline to walk away from this non commitment but I do know if I bring up the talk again, I have to be mentally prepared to let go. Otherwise, staying after 2 talks will have him see me as a joke!
But I am ashamed to admit that I never dared because I am scared he will walk away from me.
It was all good until last weekend.
We met, had a great date once again. In fact it was one of his regular family days but he cancelled to meet me because the week before he had already promised me we would meet but somehow his schedule got messed up.
I asked him if he would like to accompany me the day after for a massage which my friend bailed on and I couldn’t cancel. He came and we spent a few nice hours together.
That date was last Sunday and he didn’t reach out thereafter. So I buzzed him on Thursday about something we talked about and he replied immediately, but his response stopped soon after. It’s now Sunday again and I have not heard from him at all.
Am I paranoid to feel that something is wrong?
I desparately want everything to feel right again. But I don’t want to double text him since he didn’t reply my last. This is killing me and I am struggling to get through the days thinking of what / how / who went wrong.
Bearing in mind, this guy is someone who has a lot of female attention.
He said that most of his previous relationships were because the ex liked him and he didn’t want to say no. This is also a guy who said 90% of his female friends ends up falling for him. And he tells me about girls who have crushes on him etc.
So I have tried extremely hard to not be one of the 90%, not be one of them who has to compete for his attention. It was much easier when he was showering me with his, but that has since disappeared.
With things at a standstill now, I feel that I am being eaten alive from the inside.
I try to distract myself but I can’t sometimes. I am still obsessing about if it was something in the last text I said that upset him, if he has suddenly met someone else, and if what we had between us was all fluff.
I need real advice now because I really don’t know what to do. I mean I don’t really have a choice if he chooses to ghost me but if he does come back after this, what should I do?
Please help me!
- Ashley
My Response:
You DO know what to do, Ashley!
Your words, your feelings, your observations, your keen intuition, you know exactly what you need to do.
You summed it up right here when you said you’re scared to have another talk with him because you’re afraid he’s going to walk away from you.
He’s already walked away from you, from this relationship, from anything you thought you had with him. He said it when you asked him what this thing is after two months, and he told you he hadn’t thought about it.
When you said you take such care not to come across as putting pressure on him or being demanding and yet you’re dying all the while inside, my heart breaks for you. Because I know a little something about this and I know from my own personal experience that this is no way for any one of us to live.
You say you hate this about yourself. You say you’re ashamed to admit that you’re scared to bring anything up with him again because it’ll only drive him away.
You know what I say to you? I say stop right there.
Stop the pretending you can do this when you so obviously can’t – because if you could, you wouldn’t be you.
I say it’s time we show you who you are, and what you’re worth and start listening to your own heart, your own body, your own intuition that always, always knows.
You’ve had seven months to get to know him.
Seven months of walking on eggshells, seven months of making sure you don’t rock the boat, put pressure on him, or give him any sense that you want more than he’s ready for. Where has it gotten you?
Do you feel any closer to him now than you did before? Have you moved any closer to the relationship you want from him?
No.
In fact, he’s moving farther away now, leaving you more anxious, more scared, and more uncertain of what this thing you have with him is. The check-ins didn’t really give you anything more except to say he’s responsive in the least amount of effort on his part when you reach out to him.
You’ve done well, Ashley. You’ve behaved perfectly.
You’ve shown him he doesn’t have to worry about you being one of those women who pressures her guy into more. But what has that done for you? What has that done with the last seven months you’ve spent like this? You’re more invested now.
More to lose. More painful for you.
You don’t need to talk to him. You already know where he stands.
Talk to yourself first.
Get clear on who you are and what you want and what you will and won’t accept. See how that lines up with what he offers you and what you’re seeing from him over these last seven months.
You don’t have to make a decision on him, you don’t need to have a conversation with him, what you absolutely DO need to do is go find a purpose to your life outside of him. Find a meaning outside of thinking about him.
When you live your life like he’s just one small part of it and make yourself and your own life a priority instead of him, something will shift.
It’s a power shift you’re needing here more than anything to do with him and whatever is going on with him.
You already have your answers.
What we need is to help you get your power back. To remember who you are. To remember everything you have to offer. To remember what it feels like to settle for something less than you deserve.
It wasn’t something you said in your last text that upset him. If it was all fluff, then he wasn’t the one for you anyway. You deserve something real. Someone you can actually talk to without being afraid you’ll say something to make him run just by being you!
You always have a choice even if he ghosts you. It’s called choosing you.
Love,
Jane
What about you? Can you relate to what Ashley is going through? Let’s make this clear for her. Tell her what you want her to hear from you in the comments below.
Ashely says
Hi Jane and everyone else who commented on this old post. Thank you for the very encouraging comments.
I finally did it. 1year and 1 month into this casual whatever you call it. I was honest and upfront with him and told him how I was / have been feeling. No drama no anger just a very honest conversation. He said he couldn’t commit and that we wanted different things and on different pages.
So I’m walking away.
I’m embarrassed that it took me so long to muster up enough courage to do this but I’m glad I did.
No more over thinking. No more obsessing. No more being confused.
I’ll be sad for a while but I’m sure I’ll be okay soon. His loss!
Jane says
Don't be embarrassed, Ashley! We all come to this conclusion in our own way and time. It only matters that you do! So proud and happy for you. I know how hard it is to finally do it, and so does anyone who's been through it so you're in understanding company here. Honest and upfront is the only way to know it's not just a temporary heat of the moment decision so remember all your reasons whenever you doubt (it's not a sign of weakness if you do!). We're a hopeful crowd so we believe until literally the end that it's somehow going to be different one day soon. Yes, you'll be sad for as long as it's still fresh and sad, but you can't be the only one on the same page in a relationship with someone. We're here for you if you need us. Keep us posted!
Ashley says
Thank you Jane for the kind words!
I still remember how completely taken aback I was at seeing him react emotionlessly. No sadness, no guilt. Nothing. Just nonchalantly and flippantly saying “I think we want different things”.
It’s like the past year didn’t happen.
I wasn’t as special as I thought after all.
Watching him say those things with such coldness was a slap in the face. He gave me nothing to hang on to. And I’m glad for that.
Because now I can start grieving properly and be on my path to recovery.
I can now save my affections for someone who actually deserve it.
And whenever I falter and the sense of loss creeps up again, I will re-read all the advice in this post and remind myself that there is a reason why I had the strength and courage to do what I did.
Jane says
It never surprises me anymore, Ashley. The lack of emotion at the ending is as telling as the lack of emotional availability that caused it's demise at all. It's not personal. It's only him confirming for you why it had to happen at all.
Gizem says
Hi Ashley,
What you do or don't do doesn't matter if he is not afraid to lose you. You said that he has a lot of options. You deserve more than just being an option for someone, no matter how attractive he is. Don't put him up on a pedestal because of his good looks. I made that mistake before and it is bad for your self-esteem.
I know that it seems so scary to let him go when you have such strong chemistry. I am not gonna lie, it feels really bad at first but so freeing. The pressure will be off and you can finally see how amazing you are. When you finally see this you will never want to go back there even if he is the same good looking guy. Focus on loving, caring and committed people like you. You deserve it.
Cate says
So familiar...I stuck around for three years in an on off relationship that was all about him retaining control by not committing and I understood why and I loved him before I understood how severe his problem was. It becomes a drug, an addiction and the longer you wait the harder it is to do without that thing you value more than life itself. Don’t be me. Get out now ❤️
K says
It's simple. Listen to yourself. Your words "sometimes I would be dying inside" and "I feel that I am being eaten alive from the inside" are very loud and clear. As Jane said, you have your answers. And we have your back x
Kim Allen says
I agree listen to your intuition. You shouldn't have to be fearful to say anything to the man you're with. I know its hard to believe sometimes when you really care for someone but it sounds like he's got it made. No pressure he can come and go as he wants and there's no consequence. We deserve better than that. Its just my opinion.
Melissa says
I can completely understand where you are. What you need to realize is there is a condition that makes us fear “emotional abandonment”. It’s a symptom of Anxiety.
We have to retrain our thoughts to Not overthink.
And lots of Affirmations for ourselves!!!
Annika says
Friend...here are a few simple things to remember in the dating game.
If a man likes you, there's nothing you can do to drive him away, and if they don't like you, there's nothing you can do to make him stay. Simple as that.
The best thing you can do is find your passion in life and do that. The right one will find you. I know that sounds silly or so far fetched right now, but it's true. And guess what? Even if he doesn't, you'll be so happy with yourself, it won't even matter.
Trust me. I've been married for three years and really it's the same. I'm just more mature now. I've learned that no matter how long you've been with them, how much you love them, or how much you do for them, there will always be times when you won't understand them, and that's okay. But there should never be a time when you allow him to call the shots or make you feel like you should be anything other than your authentic self.
Men respond to strength and they like women who are sure of themselves. Be the woman who knows who she is, loves who she is, and is unapologetic about it. Be the woman who loves life and speaks her mind.
Also, this guy seems like he is playing mind games because he has some sort of self esteem problems. Seems a bit like a narcissist to me. Watch out for these guys. They will have no direction in life and will have you running around town looking crazy trying to please them. Don't do it love.
If a man tells you all of the women fall for him, it's not because they love him, it's because he is playing games and likes to feel like the man.
So some of this BS he is doing is mind games. Don't fall for it. He likes the fact that you're waiting and doing things to attract him. Once you asked him what you guys were, that's all he needed.
Throw that fish back in the sea honey. Let him be someone elses burden. Trust me, you are so much better off without him.
ginny says
Ashley, Jane's advice is "right on". I am 78, widowed, was married for 46 years. Believe me it is no fun walking on "eggshells", being afraid to talk, kindly but frankly.
Been dating a wonderful man for five years (he is widowed and unfortunately, doesn't want to remarry). But we have a healthy, committed relationship. Until I experienced what I have with him, I didn't realize how "uptight" I was all those years with my husband. Looking back, I realize that was no way to live. I am still learning however. We have a good life apart also, but I was just reminded from what Jane said, that for those times when I realize I am too getting dependent on him, I need to expand my own interests and activities.
Tamar says
First, Jane, right on, as usual! Thank you for your wisdom, kindness, and honesty!!!!
Dear Ashley,
You sound wonderful, like a real “catch”. You deserve to be adored and appreciated, just like you do for the person you care about. You’re really strong in the “loving and caring and being ready to be committed” dimension. It doesn’t sound like this person is!in your league in that domain, though he sounds neat in other ways, like being cute and fun. We’ve all been where you are. I remember briefly dating a wonderful guy in college who maybe wanted to be a Catholic priest, though he also really enjoyed being physical with me, and then would feel guilty and torn about it afterwards. Complicated, though he was really a nice person. I’m hoping that some of your superlove and kindness goes towards yourself, like you would for your dearest friend. He just doesn’t sound like he’s totally where you are.
Sincerely wishing you all the best,